Archive News
September 2010


We will be running two public exhibitions with Conran & Partners and invite all members of the public to attend.

Both sessions will be held in the community centre, to the rear of Saltdean Lido on Sunday 26th September and Monday 27th September from 4pm until 7pm.  They are both drop-in sessions so please call in to see our plans and vision for the site as we would like your feedback and views.

Members of Friends of Saltdean Lido are exclusively invited at 3pm on Sunday 26th September for an exclusive preview.  Please make sure you bring your membership card with you!

August 2010 - Dates for your Diary

We have just launched a very exciting competition inviting people to submit their own photographs of Saltdean Lido.  The shortlisted winners will form part of an exclusive Friends of Saltdean Lido 2011 calendar which Conran & Partners will judge.  For full details please see here for full entry details.  Be quick, as the closing date is the 3rd September 2010

 

July 2010

The campaign group have submitted an application to English Heritage asking for a review of the current Listing.  To support the application a number of professionals have officially endorsed the application as well as The Twentieth Century Society.  We would like to thank all the people who kindly took the time to sign petitions and post them into us in their hundreds.  The petition submitted had over 3,000 signatures.  If you still have a petition please do send it to us as we will send a further batch off to them late August.

July 2010

SRA Meeting

Hi everyone
you should have all got your newsletters now - if not they are imminent!
 
Just to let you know that Rebecca from the Save the Lido campaign will be giving an update on the situation at the next meeting of the Saltdean Residents Association.

This is being held Weds 14 July at 7.30pm in the downstairs hall of the community centre (entrance round the back).

If you would like to come along you would need to be a Residents Association member to come to the meeting but it is minimal cost for a very worthwhile organisation that we are working closely with.
 
hope you are all well and thanks for all your ongoing support delivering newsletters, buying our Save Saltdean stuff, posting on facebook and offers of help - all very much appreciated.
 
have a great weekend
Nikki

xx


 

June 2010

Download our June newsletter here

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MEDIA RELEASE
For Immediate Release 

“First, swim in the lido at dawn, next... rule the world!”

THE STORY OF BRITISH LIDOS MAKES A SPLASH AT A LIDO NEAR YOU!

Site-specific theatre company to stage new play exploring the lives, loves and battles surrounding Britain's world famous lidos.

Listed Theatre will be slipping into swimsuits from all eras this summer, to tell you about the escapades, glories and more recent closures of lido’s throughout Britain in their new work, Listed Lido.

From the blitz to the bikini, Listed Lido is based on the true stories surrounding the legacy of the stunning art-deco public pools and the swimmers who use them.  Listed Theatre’s site-specific romp, through the thrills and chills of England’s lidos, dives off when a group of petty criminals are assigned community service in an outdoor swimming pool.  The offenders hard work pays off as they discover the real life stories of love, loss, and most importantly freedom that these magnificent pools have offered Britons since they were built just under a century ago.

Premiering at the magnificent Peterborough Lido during the Peterborough Festival, Listed Lido will tour to Crown Pools in Ipswich, Tooting Bec Lido and wrap up the run at the stunning Ilkley Lido in North Yorkshire, throughout June and July.

Jessica Manley, producer of Listed Lido, said:

"In April 2009 Listed Theatre began work to develop a performance piece, exploring and celebrating the history of Broomhill Pool, a derelict lido in Ipswich, Suffolk and the current campaign to save it.  Out of this work grew a research project which led us to discover the rich legacy of lidos nationwide. 
We collected fascinating stories about how these lidos remained open during the blitz, were witness to the first ever bikinis, saw generations of teenagers showing off on the diving boards (now banned due to new health and safety regulations!), and trained swimmers to cross the channel. 
It is this cross section of society that Listed Lido brings to life, whilst documenting the battles to save our beloved lidos, which are currently raging across the country.  It is so important that we save these lido's which are valuable urban oases, fusing the ideals of democracy with inspiring architecture."

Listed Lido will be staged as part of The Ipswich and Peterborough Festivals and independently at Tooting Bec and Ilkley Lidos this Summer.

www.listedtheatre.com
www.facebook.com/pages/LISTED-THEATRE/123357094357106

Play: Listed Lido
Company: Listed Theatre
Location/Space: Ilkley Lido, Ilkley Pool & Lido, Denton Road, Ilkley, LS29 0BZ
Dates: 29th and 30th June 2010 (Tuesday, Wednesday)
Time: 7:30pm
Price: £10/ £6 concessions
Telephone: 07576 169 620
Website: www.listedtheatre.com
Email: info@listedtheatre.com
Director: Tyne Rafaeli
Designer: Ilaria D’Intinosante
Producer: Jessica Manley 
Description:  From the blitz to the bikini, Listed Lido is based on the true stories surrounding the legacy of the stunning art-deco public pools across Britain and the swimmers who use them.  Listed Theatre’s site-specific romp, through the thrills and chills of England’s lidos, dives off when a group of petty criminals are assigned community service in an outdoor swimming pool.  The offender’s hard work pays off as they discover the real life stories of love, loss, and most importantly freedom that these magnificent pools have offered Britons since they were built just under a century ago.

Play: Listed Lido
Company: Listed Theatre
Location/Space: Crown Pools, Crown Street, Ipswich, IP1 3JA
Dates: 3rd and 10th July 2010 (2 consecutive Saturday’s)
Time: 7:30pm
Price: £10/ £6 concessions
Telephone: 01473 432 869
Website: www.listedtheatre.com
Email: info@listedtheatre.com
Director: Tyne Rafaeli
Designer: Ilaria D’Intinosante
Producer: Jessica Manley 
Description:  From the blitz to the bikini, Listed Lido is based on the true stories surrounding the legacy of the stunning art-deco public pools across Britain and the swimmers who use them.  Listed Theatre’s site-specific romp, through the thrills and chills of England’s lidos, dives off when a group of petty criminals are assigned community service in an outdoor swimming pool.  The offender’s hard work pays off as they discover the real life stories of love, loss, and most importantly freedom that these magnificent pools have offered Britons since they were built just under a century ago.

Play: Listed Lido
Company: Listed Theatre
Location/Space: Peterborough Lido, Bishops Road, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, PE1 5BW
Dates: 26th – 27th June 2010 (Saturday, Sunday)
Time: 7:30pm
Price: £10/ £6 concessions
Telephone: 01733 207 239
Website: www.listedtheatre.com
Email: info@listedtheatre.com
Director: Tyne Rafaeli
Designer: Ilaria D’Intinosante
Producer: Jessica Manley 
Description: From the blitz to the bikini, Listed Lido is based on the true stories surrounding the legacy of the stunning art-deco public pools across Britain and the swimmers who use them.  Listed Theatre’s site-specific romp, through the thrills and chills of England’s lidos, dives off when a group of petty criminals are assigned community service in an outdoor swimming pool.  The offender’s hard work pays off as they discover the real life stories of love, loss, and most importantly freedom that these magnificent pools have offered Britons since they were built just under a century ago.

Play: Listed Lido
Company: Listed Theatre
Location/Space: Tooting Bec Lido, Tooting Common, London, SW16 1RU
Dates: 5th July – 6th July 2010 (Monday, Tuesday)
Time: 8pm
Price: £10/ £6 concessions
Telephone: 07576 169 620
Website: www.listedtheatre.com
Email: info@listedtheatre.com
Director: Tyne Rafaeli
Designer: Ilaria D’Intinosante
Producer: Jessica Manley 
Description: From the blitz to the bikini, Listed Lido is based on the true stories surrounding the legacy of the stunning art-deco public pools across Britain and the swimmers who use them.  Listed Theatre’s site-specific romp, through the thrills and chills of England’s lidos, dives off when a group of petty criminals are assigned community service in an outdoor swimming pool.  The offender’s hard work pays off as they discover the real life stories of love, loss, and most importantly freedom that these magnificent pools have offered Britons since they were built just under a century ago.



Petition news

Under advice from English Heritage and the 20th Century Society we are concentrating our current petition efforts in order to raise the status of the Lido to Grade II* from Grade II - one of our original campaign objectives. This should help safeguard the Lido from residential development in the future as planning is much more considered with Grade II*. This does not preclude enabling building work to maintain the Lido and protect and develop the community and leisure facilities.

We would like to submit our application at the end of June and our pressing need is a signed petition in support of raising the listed status of the building - to this end we have rather ambitiously set a target for 2000 signatures by the end of June - can we do it - course we can Saltdean!

We hope that you will all get involved in this with us and if you can print out a copy (we will also have copies in the Post Office in Saltdean) here as a word document or here as a pdf we will be right on track.

Please get your family and friends, colleagues at work, fellow students and anyone else who you feel supports the Lido to sign. Don't feel you have to give us a completed sheet back - a few signatures will do.

Please help us with this - you can deliver the petition to the post office on Longridge or post to FOSL (Friends of Saltdean Lido) in Brambletyne (address on petition).

Thank you so much for your support everyone - especially buying our bags, t-shirts etc. All monies raised goes directly to the campaign of course.


Our Campaign Public Meeting Feedback - Save Saltdean Lido views

Anything to add - please email me here

Meeting 3 Monday 4.30pm

  • Recurring issues again from ex-gym members who stated that they had left because of lack of maintenance - similar to the pool users in the audience.
  • Audley confirmed that he had never had a survey competed when leasing the building 10 years ago.

Meeting 2 Monday 2.30pm

  • Simon Kirby MP, Cllr David Smith and Lynda Hyde all in attendance.
  • Simon Kirby stated that he would fully oppose residential planning.
  • Liz (SCA) again reiterating that Audley had charge the SCA £2000 for 3 weeks worth of water use - 8 toilets.
  • Cllr David Smith stating that Section 146 is served on Dennis Audley for non maintenance.
  • Audley is liable for structural repairs contrary to statement on Sunday.

Meeting 1 Sunday 7pm

  • BBC cameras were there 'filming angry scenes' and a piece appeared at 7.57am today.
  • Audley said that it is the council which is responsible for maintenance of the building and we should look to it for answers about why the building has been allowed to deteriorate.
  • Liz from the SCA intervened a few times as Audley also blamed the non-maintenance issue on the SCA.
  • When asked if the council is encouraging him to submit plans for development to enable re-vamp of the building he said he couldn't comment directly but his look and body language said yes.
  • He said that there are 9 files worth of correspondence between him and the council since 2007 about his plans.  He also said that he couldn't submit plans until the council had come up with a planning brief.
  • This is not what the campaign group were told at its meeting with Roger and Kathryn in the planning team at the council last Wednesday.
  • During Audley's architect's presentation he showed us an image of a library.  When asked if it was the proposed library for the lido site he said 'no it's a library BHCC are building in Brighton I just thought you'd like to know how they are spending £7.5 million of your money'.
  • In summary, it was an ill-tempered meeting with Audley's architect flinging down his microphone after 35 minutes, unplugging his laptop and storming out after his figures and summary about the condition of the building were questioned by two structural engineers who were in the audience. 
  • Audley continued but was unable to answer most questions satisfactorily.  He continues to peddle the line that most of the flats at the Ocean Hotel are sold even when informed that 2.5 blocks are shells and work on them has stopped.  This was confirmed by a woman in the audience whose husband had worked there who said that all contractors had been laid off.
  • He said that he had not received a letter from the 20th century society offering to do a free survey of the entire site but said it was not necessary as his 2007 survey was sufficient.  He was pressed repeatedly about why he wouldn't accept a free offer of help like this from a respected body.

The first of three public consultations called by Dennis Audley to produce his latest plans for the redevelopment of Saltdean Lido rapidly descended into farce when his designer, mid-presentation, switched off his microphone and stormed out of the room. Whilst Mr Audley did continue to field questions from angry residents, the attendees left the meeting no wiser as to the detail of the new proposals.

All three meetings were well attended, despite the community being given very little notice and we were pleased that two of our Ward Councillors and our new MP attended the second meeting and spoke passionately in defence of the Lido and against any residential development.

Mr Audley presented a community 'wish list', taken from comments at the original consultation, which included a Youth Centre, indoor pool, play area and cafe, which, including the cost of renovating the existing complex, he estimated would cost in the order of £4 million. He initially proposed covering this cost by a six storey residential development. However after a meeting with Brighton & Hove City Council Planning Department prior to the second meeting, he informed residents that he'd been told that 80 flats would not be acceptable and therefore the 'wish list' would have to be cut.

Throughout angry questions from many residents at all three meetings as to why the building had been allowed to deteriorate, Mr Audley maintained that the responsibility for repairs and renovation remained with BHCC. This was denied by attending Councillors.

Rebecca Crook of Save Saltdean Lido read out a statement confirming that despite having requested a copy of the main Lease of the complex from BHCC, Mr Audley and other Associations, all had declined to provide the Group with the documentation. However, the Group had, that day, received under the Freedom of Information Act, a copy of the survey commissioned by the Council at the end of 2009. Although the Group had not had an opportunity to check the 58 page document in detail, it did outline that "the tenant has failed to maintain a number of obligations".

She confirmed that both the Council's survey and Mr Audley's new presentation would be made available to the public via the Campaign website as soon as possible.

Our Meeting Statement Monday

The Save Saltdean Lido Campaign group have formally requested from all parties a copy of the their lease in order to ascertain who has responsibility for maintaining and repairing the building but to date Brighton & Hove City Council, Mr Audley & the Saltdean Community Association have all refused to provide us with any such document.

We understood that at the end of last year (2009), the Council commissioned a survey of the building and under the Freedom of Information Act we have literally TODAY just received a response to that official request.  We are now in receipt of a 58 page document which clearly states and outlines that the 'tenant has failed to maintain a number of obligations'.

Given we have just received this document today and the lengthy content of the information we now need time to digest and investigate in full.  However we intend to share this information with the residents and public and in due course will be formally writing to Mr Audley & Brighton & Hove City Council for clarity and immediate action with regards to the breaches.


Buy our bits

We have bags and car stickers for sale and also t-shirts for those of you who are really keen - they are very nice!

They are being stocked with Mark at the Post Office in Saltdean and also Pebbles in Rottingdean are stocking our stuff -  The Pebbles Homestyle & Gift Store is on 86 High Street, Rottingdean and their website is www.pebbles.me.uk

Bags are £2 and car stickers £1 - all proceeds go to our fundraising campaign.

bag

tshirt


Thursday May 13th Update - extra meeting with Dennis Audley

Sunday 16th May 7pm at the community centre

please attend if you are unable to attend the Monday times which are still booked

Sunday 1st May

Important news below - please pass onto your friends, family and other local residents.

We have asked him to ensure that times were flexible for all residents but they are unable to comply with that request.

We need as much support as possible for the meetings - obviously many people will be at work at that time.

Please can you come and show your support if you are able.

We think that a public meeting should also be held in the evening as, of course, those of us who work are not around in the day.

If you agree perhaps you could drop an email to the following requesting an evening meeting at, say, 1830.

To Dennis Audley (leaseholder of the building and pool) and his architect Mark Strawbridge 


and copy the councillors and campaign group.


Print a flyer A4 here and A5 copies here

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Article for the local Deans magazine

The residents of Saltdean are being asked to sympathise with Dennis Audley, the man who acquired a lease on Saltdean Lido & Community Centre from Brighton & Hove Council,  in 1999 and since claims to have lost money season by season. Mr Audley has, according to much-voiced local opinion, spent long years allowing the complex to deteriorate  and now intends to apply to Brighton & Hove City Council for permission to build 102 flats on this iconic Art Deco site. 

Unfortunately for Mr Audley, at no fewer than three packed public meetings on 28th March, Saltdean's residents made it clear that they have had enough of commercial developers descending upon the community, taking their profit and departing, leaving the residents to cope with infrastructure at breaking point and traffic and parking nightmares.

The plans revealed by Mr Audley at the public consultation, although conceptual rather than detailed, included the filling in of the only coastal public swimming pool between Brighton and Newhaven, with the suggestion that it should be replaced by an unspecified 'wet play' facility (possibly a fountain) and the erection of a new library building on the green space currently surrounding the Lido, all of which would be dominated by the new residential complex.

Residents who viewed the plans were so underwhelmed that within hours the Save Saltdean Lido group had been formed on Facebook, which rapidly grew to a membership of over 300. At the time of writing, the Save Saltdean Lido group has in excess of six thousand members and is still growing daily.

The public meetings held jointly by Saltdean Residents Association, Saltdean Community Association and Save Saltdean Lido, were an opportunity for the residents of The Deans to express their views and hopes for the Lido/Community Centre and they expressed those views with enthusiasm. 99% of those responding to our survey at the meetings (not to mention the children of Saltdean Primary School who, of their own volition, got up a Save Saltdean Lido petition and the many thousands who've left messages on our website) said No! No to more flats; No to the loss of our swimming pool; No to private profit at the expense of the local community.

However, the public meetings were not simply a group of disgruntled residents indulging in a spot of recreational Nimbyism; many positive suggestions were put forward for the future of the complex, with 84% of the survey respondents being in favour of the lease being passed to a Community Interest Group to be run on a not-for-profit basis. Many people raised the question of the pool being heated to extend the swimming season (as the residents were promised more than a decade ago) and a cafe, children's play area and dedicated youth facilities were also frequently suggested.

The Save Saltdean Lido taskforce are a non-political, independent group of local residents who are committed to preserving the Lido complex as a community resource, without residential development. Over the past month, we have had discussions with many interested parties including English Heritage, 20th Century Society and various local councillors as well as with the developer and thanks to the generosity of local residents who attended the public meetings, we now have a fighting fund which will enable us to carry the battle forward. The taskforce is currently setting up a charity, Friends of Saltdean Lido.

We are also in contact with several other lidos around the country which are successfully run by the local community, who are providing us with very useful data. Offers of help, both locally and nationally, have flooded in and we are very grateful to everyone who has offered their time or professional expertise.

Whilst the whole Lido complex, including the pool itself and the buildings behind, are included in the current Grade II Listed Building status, this does not afford total protection and we are in the process of applying to English Heritage to have the Listing upgraded to II* which would mean that English Heritage would be more closely consulted before any alterations/development could proceed.

Mr Audley may well shrug off the concerns and wishes of local residents and may well view the complex merely as “a moment's distraction in tangential views taken by motorists and passengers on the way to and from Brighton”. In fact he seems to think that another large development of flats would benefit the people of Saltdean.

Of course, he doesn't live here.

Details of the campaign are regularly updated on our website www.saltdeanlidocampaign.org and if you can help in any way, the taskforce can be contacted by email at saltdeanlidocampaign@googlemail.com

Article for the Local Saltdean Resident newsletter


Tuesday 26th April

You should shortly receive a newsletter and poster through your door - please display and show your support.

You can download:

April 2010 newsletter here


Sunday 24th April
This week we will be posting our lovely posters - thanks so much to ever creative - through your letterboxes. Please show your support by popping them up in your windows.

We have lots of roads covered and a few more to go.

These are the roads we need help on:

42 18 FOUNTHILL AVENUE            
166 93 CHICHESTER DRIVE   east            
32 16 LEN HAM ROAD            
50 26 LINDFIELD CLOSE            
    Falmer Ave            
23 10 LOOES BARN CLOSE            
46 28 LUSTRELLS CLOSE            
170 92 LUSTRELLS CRESC            
27 15 TREMOLA AVENUE            
314 201 LUSTRELLS VALE            
    saxon close             
51 29 PERRY HILL            
51 23 Winton Avenue            
13 8 BERWICK ROAD                       
82 41 CHORLEY AVENUE            
54 30  CHICHESTER CLOSE WICKLANDS AVENUE             

If you could help deliver leaflets to these roads please contact me here

 


Letter sent to our google group with updates 12/01/10

To join our google group email here save-saltdean-lido-information-share@googlegroups.com

Hello everyone

I am writing to you to keep you updated on our Save Saltdean Campaign.

I expect you are aware that you can also find us on twitter - saltdeanlido, facebook - save saltdean lido and via our website on www.saltdeanlidocampaign.org. We have set up a google group as we have a lot of you - which is great - too many for a mailing list!and hope that you will accept the invite and continue to support the campaign and get involved if you can. We hope to then bring you a weekly update of news from the campaign. We have been working hard in the last few weeks and you may have seen us in the news and on BBC South Today (if you missed it there is a you tube link on our website). We have around 460 questionnaires back - if you haven't filled in one yet please do - it only takes about 5 minutes - details on our website. We also have a survey for under 18's - we need those views as well. We also have the lovely logo by www.ever-creative.co.uk and are looking to get car stickers, t-shirts and bags all printed up so everyone can show support for the campaign.

We are currently lobbying all local councillors, including those in East Saltdean, meeting with the SRA and the SCA to make sure we keep each other up to speed, in discussion with Dennis Audley over a proposed public meeting that he wishes to arrange - watch this space!! and also looking at other very successful projects around the country - Lidos that have been taken over by community interest and not for profit organisations. We are also imminently submitting an application for the rise of Saltdean Lido to a grade II* listed status and applying to set up 'Friends of Saltdean Lido' - a charity with a fundraising aim.

We do really need the ongoing support of yourselves and our local community and hope this will continue. We need to put pressure on Brighton and Hove Council as the owners of the Lido and there are several ways to do this. We want to make sure every household is kept up to speed with developments by posting an information sheet and poster through all Saltdean doors and we will be following this by talking to all local residents with regard to a letter writing campaign and petition - both are crucial to our cause.

Some of you have offered help and we will be needing that help over the upcoming months in various capacities but what would really help us in the immediate few weeks is a list of volunteers who would be able to leaflet Saltdean with information. Now the weather has got sunnier this should be a bit more pleasant! If you would be willing to leaflet a road (or half a road) please tell us - we must get all Saltdean on board to save our lido and although the internet is useful it doesn't reach everybody.

So if you can please email the group on save-saltdean-lido-information-share@googlegroups.com if you would like to join or myself directly on nikkifabry@yahoo.co. uk telling us where you can leaflet.

Also hope you may join this group and we will keep you up to date. thanks again for your support for the campaign and the Lido

Nikki Fabry
Save Saltdean Lido
www.saltdeanlidocampaign.org

Here is the group's description:
Residents of Saltdean, lovers of architecture, heritage-protectors & lido fans unite and have their say to save our Lido! This is a group set up to share information regarding the campaign and to support and share offers of help.


April 2nd 2010
The campaign group is currently working on:
- collating the questionnaires from the public meetings
- completing the complicated application to English Heritage to get the building upgraded from Grade II to Grade II*. This would give it more protection as the EH have to be consulted before any renovations or developments.
- talking to other lidos that are running as successful businesses, to get ideas and look at the options of how it could be run as a community project.

Please remember everyone. If you want to do something to help, please contact the taskforce at the above email address. There are lots of avenues already being explored so we don't want to duplicate tasks, but there is plenty more to be done. If you can help, please email.
Thanks

The plans for the Lido site were revealed this evening at the Community Centre. 100 flats. Filled-in swimming pool. Large development. Too much for this 1930's architectural treasure.
The community would benefit from a renovated swimming pool with new facilities, a cafe, modernised library and community halls.

The lido was built 1937-38 to designs by the architect Richard Jones, and was hailed as the most innovative design of its type in Britain. With its tea terrace, sun deck, cafe, perched on the flat roof and distinctive curved wings at either end, it became the only lido to be featured in the Design Museum in London. Only a few lidos across Britain remain in use. Jill Sack, of the 20th Century Society, said it was a disgrace that Saltdean had been left to rot. "We have followed the fortunes of Saltdean closely because it is a classic example of Art Deco architecture and a building of great historical value," she said. "We have lost so many lidos and this is one of the very best. It is vital it is restored." TV News 1st April 2010
- Catch us on BBC South East Today at lunchtime and with a full report at 18:30pm. NO web link for the report as yet but if it is available we will make sure it is posted here.


Fundraising – the Save Saltdean Lido and Community Centre group is in the process of becoming a charity which means we will be able to claim gift aid (reclaim tax on donations).

However at the public meetings on the 28th March people were very generous and donated over £1,000.

A fantastic start financially to the campaign which helps with printing costs etc. As soon as we are operating as a charity we'll let you know how you can donate to the campaign.

In the meantime here is a list of things you can do to help here


Meridian news 28/03/10 at about 18:15 about the meetings. It lasted about 20 seconds and said 100s of people had turned up to oppose proposals.  There were shots of the lido but no interviews.


 
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